A conversation with distinguished scholar and education reform theorist Bill Ayers about the Sixties, SDS, and the Weather Underground; about the educational system in America and efforts to reform it. Includes a discussion of Ayers' time as a fugitive with reflection on the tactics used by the Weathermen and other groups -- and attempts by the right wing to connect Ayers with presidential candidate Barack Obama during the 2008 elections. Guest: Bill Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois and a Senior University Scholar. Author, internationally-renowned education reform advocate, and social justice activist. Producer and host: Thorne Dreyer. Engineer: Tracey Schulz.